Re: Spoiler: News & Gerüchte von den Dreharbeiten!

#301
Bzgl Fiennes:
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Bisher gab es nur Spekulationen. Meist wurde gemunkelt, dass er Politiker ist. Möglicherweise ein Minister.
Und es gibt wohl noch eine weitere Location, die in Pinewood nachgebaut wurde:
On their set visits they caught a glimpse of "the abandoned Japanese city, complete with tattered statue of a forgotten hero -- which looks like it weighs a ton… misleadingly."

Hashima island is off the coast of Nagasaki, last inhabited in 1974. It is commonly known as the abandoned Japanese island, having been coal mining facility that has since gone out of business. It appears that Bond, or one of his supporting players will be paying a visit to the remote inhabited island.
http://www.mi6-hq.com/news/index.php?it ... mi6&s=news


Mehr Infos mit Bildern von der echten Insel:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hashima_(Insel)

Meine Meinung: Geile Location !!!!

Und etwas Spekulation:
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Vielleicht befindet sich dort im Film eine Art geheimes Gefängnis. Das Gefängnis in dem Raoul Silva in Isolationshaft sitzt?
"In a Bond film you aren't involved in cinema verite or avant-garde. One is involved in colossal fun."

Terence Young

Re: Spoiler: News & Gerüchte von den Dreharbeiten!

#304
MX87 hat geschrieben:Und es gibt wohl noch eine weitere Location, die in Pinewood nachgebaut wurde
Hab ich auch schon gelesen. Wirklich interessant.
Ich nehme aber mal stark an, dass diese Insel nur als Nebenlocation auftauchen wird. Einmal, weil es erst jetzt bekannt wird. Zweitens, weil sie nur nachgestellt wird.
Von daher ist deine Vermutung gar nicht mal so abwegig. Naja, vielleicht findet ja auch eine Geheimsitzung dort statt :wink:
"Für England, James? - Nein, für mich!"

Re: Spoiler: News & Gerüchte von den Dreharbeiten!

#306
So, mir reicht es jetzt.
Ich werde ab sofort KEINE SPOILER Warnungen mehr in diesen Threads hier nutzn.
Macht doch wirklich keinen Sinn, wenn jeder Post nur noch mit Spoiler-Funktion versteckt ist und man auch beim Antworten immer darauf achten muss.

Also, wer nichts vom Film erfahrne will, soll auch nicht in diesen Thread gehen !

Zur Sache:
Wo steht denn, dass Fiennes auf Bond schießt? Das erkennt man ja aus dem Bild mit ihm nicht.

Craig betont in letzter ZEit in allen Interviews, dass sie alte CharakterE zurückbringen. Neben Q muss es also entweder Moneypenny, M oder Blofeld sein. M macht eigentlich keinen Sinn, denn den gabs ja immer. Blofeld glaube ich aber kaum. Vom Aussehen und Typ her fände ich Fiennes zwar total interessant, aber das würde eine radikale Neuinterpretation der Rolle bedeuten.
Wenn Fiennes zu M wird, dann würde er ja im Film praktisch degradiert oder er übernimmt die Funktion mit, nachdem die Vorgängerin umkommt.
"It's been a long time - and finally, here we are"

Re: Spoiler: News & Gerüchte von den Dreharbeiten!

#307
du meine güte... ist das denn echt so schwer?

wenn ein bild von fiennes offiziell veröffentlicht wird, wo man ihn mit einer waffe sieht, und man dann darüber spekuliert, auf wen er schießt, dann ist das natürlich kein spoiler hier...

wenn allerdings zb eine genaue beschreibung des showdowns samt storytechnischem "höhepunkt" von skyfall auftaucht, dann würde ich schon meinen, dass das auch im spoiler-bereich ein spoiler ist.

ist das denn echt zu viel verlangt?
Bond... JamesBond.de

Re: Spoiler: News & Gerüchte von den Dreharbeiten!

#308
Kein Stress, Gernot aber so eindeutig ist es nicht immer bei dem Mischmasch von Gerüchten und Fakten. Je Diskussion eines Gerüchts kann ja zum Fakt werden, und damit ein Spoiler werden.

Außerdem: Wenn man ein mal etwas als Spoiler makiert hier, müssen sich auch alle daran halten, die darüber weiter diskutieren wollen. Dann hat man hinterher einen Thread nur voller Spoiler-markierter Posts :-)
Außerdem empfindet es wohl jeder unterschiedlich was ein wichtiger Spoiler ist. Der Brand von Skyfall Lodge war ein Spoiler aber inzwischen fast überall veröffentlicht. Außerdem weiß man, dass esim Showdown immer zu einer Explosion kommt. Also Spoiler oder nicht?
Der Name eines Charakters mag ein vie größerer Spoiler sein, als die BEschreibung des Showdowns...

Einfacher wäre es einen seperaten "Major Spoiler thread" zu haben bzw. der generelle Hinweis, dass sich Leute die nicht gespoilert werden wollen aus den 2-3 threads fernhalten.
"It's been a long time - and finally, here we are"

Re: Spoiler: News & Gerüchte von den Dreharbeiten!

#309
Ich habe sowieso die Empfindung, dass in den Spoiler-Threads regelmäßig nur 4 bis 5, maximal 6 Leute auch aktiv schreiben.
Die Frage ist eben, ob man trotz Spoilerwarnung hier im Forum dem Spoiler über längere Zeit aus dem Weg gehen kann.
Aber ich hab auch nichts dagegen ab und zu mal einen Spoilerkasten zu öffnen :)
"Für England, James? - Nein, für mich!"

Re: Spoiler: News & Gerüchte von den Dreharbeiten!

#310
Und wieder ein Puzzlestück:
but what you don’t see about the gunplay is that one of the characters — Kincaide, played by Albert Finney — is fond of old-fashioned English firearms. Think of 19th Century percussion pistols and a very powerful elephant gun that fires .500 Nitro Express cartridges.
Kincade ist die dritte Person die am Skyfall-Set in Surrey gesichtet wurde. Bisher wurde spekuliert ob er das Anwesen bewohnt bzw. sich zumindest darum kümmert.
Hier also die Info, dass er einen Fimmel für alte Waffen hat. Besonders ist die Rede von einer "Elephant Gun"... also eines Großkalibergewehrs, das vor allem für die Großwildjagd gedacht war.

Mehr Info zu dieser Sorte Gewehr:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elephant_gun
"In a Bond film you aren't involved in cinema verite or avant-garde. One is involved in colossal fun."

Terence Young

Re: Spoiler: News & Gerüchte von den Dreharbeiten!

#311
Es gibt neues zu den London Underground-Szenen, inklusive der ersten bekannt gewordenen Dialog des Films:
As the camera rolls he snaps his Walther PPK up from his hip and locks his target in his sights. "I've got bad news, Silva," he warns. "Me too," comes Javier Bardem's villainous reply.

Seconds later a bomb rips through the roof of the tunnel.
Judi Dench erzählt auch, wie ihr das Drehbuch überbracht wurde. Man kann sagen schon fast filmtauglich:
Dench recalled the day her Skyfall script arrived, playing out like a scene dreamt up by Bond author Ian Flemming himself. The 77-year-old was entertaining people in her garden when a shadowy figure strode through the gate.
"We were all talking and having a drink and suddenly we looked and there was a man completely in black with script under his arm.
"He never spoke and he darted out and I said to the others, 'That, believe it or not, is the Bond script'."
Und ein wunderbares Beispiel für Daniel Craigs Humor:
Interrogated about M's past during an interview between gun battles, Daniel Craig drew on his secret service experience to throw his questioner off course. "She was a stripper in Morocco," he says with characteristic Bond cheek.
Quelle:
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/entert ... 6326592186
"In a Bond film you aren't involved in cinema verite or avant-garde. One is involved in colossal fun."

Terence Young

Re: Spoiler: News & Gerüchte von den Dreharbeiten!

#312
Jede Menge Spoiler bzgl. Sets, Actionszenen und der vielleicht erste Dialog aus Skyfall:

Wer es lesen will, solls lesen...


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A big part of the Bond movies have been the exotic locations where they've shot them, but for Skyfall they're staying fairly close to home, both in terms of creating those exotic locations on the Pinewood soundstages, but also doing something that seems unheard of in a Bond movie by having part of the movie take place on and under the streets of London proper. The production would be heading off to Turkey soon for a couple more weeks of shooting before they wrap in late May, but they still had a lot of work to do at the studio.

On arrival our first day, we were taken around to the sets, beginning with one that had already been torn down at what is called the "Paddock Pool," a large outdoor water tank where they had built the exteriors of a casino in Macao, China. We were told they had put lily pads in the water and hanging red Chinese lanterns above it, plus there was a blue screen on the wall behind the tank to enhance the environment. In fact, this was a similar water tank as the one at Universal Studios where Steven Spielberg shot a lot of Jaws. All that was left were two giant colorful dragonheads in their full glory, which they haven't figured out quite what to do with just yet.

On one of the large soundstages, they were in the process of building the interiors of the casino on one of the soundstages and we wandered around to check out this work in progress. It was mainly colored in red and gold with golden dragons coiled themselves around the pillars, continuing the motif from the casino's exteriors. We were told that they had imported some of the materials from China to be assembled on the stages and on the lower level, we spotted two giant Asian lions holding up one of the levels. The casino tables were still wrapped in plastic in an area safe from construction and they hadn't been broken out yet, but we could definitely imagine what the place would look like bustling with activity.

Next, we walked through the Pinewood backlot where they had built an abandoned ghost town, which is meant to be a part of Hashima Island in Japan, the location where Bond first meets Silva in the movie, though we weren't told what the context of that meeting was. Again, mysteries, mysteries… The entire complex was made to look like it was concrete, mostly crumbling with rubble everywhere and the multi-paneled glass windows had many of their panes smashed in. As we walked through the empty streets, we came upon a town square in a similar state of destruction with a giant statue of some Japanese emperor or other guarding over it, though its head and torso had already been pulled down, either by the townspeople or by whatever drove them out of town. They were ready to tear this set down and they had already pulled out all of the set dressing and props that littered the streets behind the set - rusted shopping carts and bicycles, signs that used to adorn the doorways. Presumably, this stuff would be used again down the road for other productions.

Finally, we were brought into Pinewood's 59,000 square foot 007 Stage, the largest soundstage in Europe, where they had reconstructed part of the London Underground for a chase scene with Bond going after Silva, although again, they only told us the bare minimum, so we didn't know where in the movie this would take place. Apparently, Silva escapes from Bond by running onto a train and Bond runs after it and then chases him into the catacombs underneath the London Underground. This was where they were filming today, and we peered behind the large safety curtains to see a large cavernous structure made of concrete and brick, looking very old, as one might assume the tunnels below the tube might look, with large circular portals between the different tunnels and pools of water on the ground where it was flooded. Although we didn't see it, in another section of the massive stage they had built a replica of the Temple Station platform, and we were told the production had been in London over the past couple weekends shooting in an abandoned portion of the Charing Cross tube station.

Special Effects Supervisor Chris Courbould, who had been working on Bond going all the way back to Moonraker (!) and who has since become Christopher Nolan's main effects man, had spent a good deal of time rigging up what would be one of the movie's bigger set pieces, in which an actual tube train would crash through the cement roof of those catacombs, a stunt that literally could only be done once, because it would take them an entire week to rebuild the set after doing the stunt. They had brought in two authentic looking London tube cars, which were sitting on a track high above the other sets that was indeed pointed straight towards the top of the catacombs set. Sometime the next day, once they had cleared the stage of everyone, they would power up that train and send it barreling forward and crashing though the roof.

Our small group of journalists was brought over to the monitors where we watched them finish up Roger Deakins' meticulous lighting on set for Craig and Bardem's stand-ins before they got in position for their scene. Unfortunately, this was a long shot and both of the actors were in shadow, but we could see that Bardem was dressed up as a London policeman with blonde hair--we couldn't tell if that was a wig or he really had blonde hair--and he was climbing up a ladder in the foreground.

In the scene, Bond catches up to Silva as he climbs the ladder and fires two shots with his Walther PPK at the villain, as sparks fly off the ladder near to Bardem.

"I won't miss next time, Mr. Silva," Bond state confidently, to which Silva responds, "Not bad, James. I'm a physical wreck. Now that you got me, here's your prize, the latest thing from my local toy store, it's called a radio."

Yeah, it's a rather strange thing for a Bond villain to be saying, but apparently, right after that bit of dialogue, a giant explosion goes off in the tunnel, presumably right above Bond where the derailed train would come crashing down. Unfortunately, we missed this part, but it didn't take a dummy to figure out that Silva's radio must have set off the explosion that derails the train allowing Silva to escape.
"It's been a long time - and finally, here we are"

Re: Spoiler: News & Gerüchte von den Dreharbeiten!

#313
Also jeder, der diese Spoiler nicht erfahren möchte, sollte jetzt einfach nicht weiter lesen. Es ist ja nicht so brisant, dass man sie im Kasten verstecken muss...
danielcc hat geschrieben:Hashima Island in Japan, the location where Bond first meets Silva in the movie
Aha, interessant. Hätte ich nicht mit gerechnet. Wie können die sich dort wohl treffen?
danielcc hat geschrieben:In the scene, Bond catches up to Silva as he climbs the ladder and fires two shots with his Walther PPK at the villain, as sparks fly off the ladder near to Bardem.

"I won't miss next time, Mr. Silva," Bond state confidently, to which Silva responds, "Not bad, James. I'm a physical wreck. Now that you got me, here's your prize, the latest thing from my local toy store, it's called a radio."

Yeah, it's a rather strange thing for a Bond villain to be saying, but apparently, right after that bit of dialogue, a giant explosion goes off in the tunnel, presumably right above Bond where the derailed train would come crashing down. Unfortunately, we missed this part, but it didn't take a dummy to figure out that Silva's radio must have set off the explosion that derails the train allowing Silva to escape.
James? Das klingt vertraulich.

Explosion: klasse. Ich kann mir nur so nicht allzuviel darunter vorstellen, wie das nachher rüberkommt. Hört sich aber alles ziemlich genial an. :wink:
"Für England, James? - Nein, für mich!"